Time has come for Native Hawaiians to take control of their future
October 8th, 2009 by Trisha Kehaulani WatsonThe passing of Aunty Malia Craver this week left me with stark awareness of the fact that we are losing our beautiful kupuna too quickly. I feel completely unprepared for this. I feel unprepared for the inability to just visit them or talk to them. I feel unprepared.
It leaves me very sad and fearful of what the future for Hawaiian holds, because it is now, too suddenly, in our hands.
I found this beautiful video of Aunty Nona Beamer:
Whether or not we are ready or prepared, Hawaiians must begin to take control of our lives and our future. This means all of us. This means all of us must start to live by the values and examples our kupuna left for us. We must be better than we have been.
All of us. Now.
I believe the way to "becoming our better selves" can be achieved if we each do the following things:
1. Love ourselves
Too many Hawaiians lack pride in themselves. Too many Hawaiian children believe there are limits on what they can achieve. They believe that aren't good enough or smart enough. This is unacceptable. We must learn to have great pride in who we are and have faith in our own capabilities.
To borrow from a lesson from the amazing Aunty Pua Burgess, we must each identify our gifts. We each have a gift, a talent, that we have been given. Our gifts come from our kupuna. We need to identify them, cherish them and nurture them.
2. Learn to ask for help
We tend to not ask for help when we need it. For some reason, we never want to say when we need help. Yet, things are hard. Things are very hard for Hawaiians right now - so many are out of work, or no longer have health insurance or child care.
It shouldn't be this way. This is our homeland. This is our home.
Yet, so many Hawaiians need help, because they are struggling.
We should not be ashamed to ask for the help we need. We need to say when we are in trouble and hurting and struggling, and we need to learn to ask for help for ourselves. We are often very good for asking for help for others and forget about ourselves in the process.
If we do not take care of ourselves, how can we take care of others?
3. Help others
When someone asks you for help, do it. Be there. Do it. Do it without judgement and question. Just help.
We have to not give up on each other. This isn't easy. We are flawed. We, as community, have hurt each other and done mean things to each other. We have fought with each other and it hasn't been pretty.
We need to stop hurting each other.
We have to learn to forgive. We have to focus on the future, even if that means learning to get over the past.
We have to learn to help one another now.
Our kupuna never turned us down and they never turned us away. And we must do that for each other now.
4. Aloha
Aloha has always been the key. Aloha kekahi i kekahi. Love one another. Love one another unconditionally.
Show aloha for one another by taking care of one another. Show aloha for this place by taking care of this place. Just give aloha, and never stop.
I share again the words of Aunty Malia Craver:
In our culture, there is a simple word that has great meaning and serves as a foundation for all that we believe in and sums up the soul of us as Hawaiians and you too. Aloha means love, affection, compassion, mercy, sympathy and kindness. Aloha means to be able to translate differences into uniqueness. Aloha means to be able to see and feel a person’s uniqueness, though they may present differences to you. It is that love, caring and spirituality that allows us to appreciate our differences as being unique and beautiful strengths that binds us rather than separates us. ...
There is a proverb that says and I quote, “if there is righteousness in the heart, there is beauty in the character. If there is beauty in the character, there is love in the home. If there is love in the home, there is harmony in the nation. And if there is harmony in the nation, there is peace in the world.” Peace and love applies at home. People at peace, speak to each other, those in love communicate. Peace is forgetting a grievance; love means true forgiveness. People can exist in peace, and live together through love.
Mankind still faces the greatest challenge of all — to spread love and lasting peace throughout the world. The beginning of this great responsibility is not in the capitols of the world. It is in each human heart, you and I, how we each conduct our individual lives.
We all need to improve our relationships with one another. We all need to be aware of the urgent need to remember that we are all related. As people, we need to be needed, to serve and to give of ourselves to help others.
The Dalai Lama has said: "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
I believe this to be true of Hawaiians and Hawai`i too.
Love and compassion are necessities if the Hawaiian community is to restore itself and thrive again.
Our kupuna have been the very embodiments of love and compassion, and as they leave us we are obligated to honor their legacies by also learning to live love and compassion.
This means we need to take better care of each other. If we do not create opportunities and take care of other Hawaiians, how can we ever expect others to help us as a people? We must lead the way.
We must reach out to one another. We must hold each other up. We must take care of each other. Give each other opportunities. Mentor our youth. Teach other. Carry each other when we're too tired to walk. Forgive each other when we fail. Give each other chances to do better next time. We must give love to one another and never stop.
We must never stop.
We must do these things, not simply because it is how we should honor our kupuna, but because our children are counting on us to.
Tags: aloha
October 9th, 2009 at 12:45 am
The time has come for all of us to take control of our future.
There is nothing in this essay which pertains to ethnic Hawaiians exclusively or especially. The concepts are universal.
Perhaps Trisha can read her essay again to see whether she has it in her heart to remove the words "Native Hawaiians" from the title, and to interpret the word "Hawaiians" in the body of the essay to refer to all the people of Hawaii.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Where is contemporary Hawaii in the long arc of history? What is our generation to do? In many ways these questions have been the thread running through Trisha's blog and the special dialogue it has fostered. Part of this has included passionate reflection on the events during the two centuries since our islands and her native people, and the European voyagers, first contacted eachother. Most of the focus has been on the meaning of the events lead up to Statehood in 1959. What has happened since then? Where are we now headed? I agree with Trisha that we must listen to the wisdom of our Kupuna for answers.
The day after the Hawaii Stathood Act passed on March 12, 1959, the late Reverend Abraham Akaka spoke publicly about the greater impact Hawaii's people, culture and faith would now have on the rest of the world. He talked about Aloha and said:
"We need to see statehood as the lifting of the clouds of smoke, and the opportunity to affirm positively the basic Gospel of the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man. We need to see that Hawaii has potential moral and spiritual contributions to make to our nation and world. The fears Hawaii may have are to be met by men and women who are living witnesses of what we really are in Hawaii, of the spirit of Aloha, men and women who can help unlock the doors to the future by the guidance and grace of God."
I share Kahu Akaka's prophetic faith that through participation as a State, our people have been taking ever greater roles in guiding US superpower and mainland culture. Overall, Hawaii has not been diluted during the five decades of Statehood, rather we are being strengthened and are more clearly defining ourselves, as a result of meeting the challenge of leadership. We have not provided much technological innovation or corporate leadership, yet Hawaii's influence on the world is ascendent.
We have provided living examples of the spirit of Aloha - and this is the most important force that humanity needs at the dawning of the new millenium. When our people are recognized as being from Hawaii, they are generally well respected and well recieved on the mainland and around the World - especially our Native Hawaiians. The World senses that there is something special about us, and it's not because of the HVB's PR efforts. The World hungers for the beauty and spirituality of our people and of our land. We should not hide ourselves from the world. We must resist the temptation to return to geo-political isolation or in fear of being swallowed-up, or give in to the spiritual isolation of assimilating the many unhealthy aspects of mainland culture. I pray that we have the wisdom, patience and humility to meet our sacred duty to share the healing power of Aloha ke Akua with the eachother and with wider world.
Ken, I thank you for your sharp intelligence and rationality, and hope you allow it to be tempered by your Aloha.
Tita, I thank you for your passion for justice and love for our Native people, and hope you can help all of us understand that our Aloha can never be taken away from us.
Trisha, I thank you for you your open heart and dedication to all of us on He Hawai’i Au.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:17 am
Kehaulani-I'm in full agreement with you. It is evident that our people are aware of this too. It is embedded within us all-thanks to our kupuna. I am kupuna and I live this concept too-teaching my mo'opuna to be a good Hawaiian Kingdom citizen is my objective. However, they have not been exposed to the "uglies" yet and I intend to keep it that way until they are ready to challange/overcome them. As their kupuna it is my duty.
Aunty Malia will be missed. However, her humbleness and kind words will continue to ring out within our people. Even she had to tolerate the "uglies" and did it with real class, but even she knew that one's level of endurance could reach it's limits. I have never witnessed Aunty's tolerance level to go beyond-and that's due to her surrounding herself with the keiki and people and places that were dear to her heart.
Aunty Malia so knew who her people were and perpetuated her knowledge/kindness because she loved them all. Her patience had no boundries. Even when she witnessed the degrading and abusive treatment of our people-she would forgive.
That lesson is beyond my reach when I encounter the uglies that continue their attempts to keep our people subjected to their alleged distorted version of our history. Instead of us all taking a look at the facts and find a way to resolve the problem-the facts get twisted and Hawaiians always end up with the short end of the stick. Justice avoided at all costs.
Aunty would encourage hoomanawanui-I will follow that lead FOR MY PEOPLE!
October 9th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I think Ms. Watson's points on ways to becoming our better selves are helpful to people from all walks of life to learn. While I can appreciate her passion to help the native Hawaiian people and also understand that they have faced many injustices and challenges, I do feel each one of us needs to unite more as the human race rather than any level of us and them. Throughout human history it has always been us and them which is why we continue to wage battles against one another and kill one another due to what seperates us rather than what unites us. America v.s. Soviet Union, North v.s. South, Whites v.s Blacks, Bloods v.s. Crips, West side v.s. East side, Waianae v.s. Kalihi, Hawaiian v.s. Non Hawaiians, this block v.s. that block. These are just some of the many examples of how we have this need to feel distinct in some way. It is our fragile egos this is the root that fuels mistrust amongst us. If we are to learn the greater lesson of all great Kupunas of the world it is that we all as the human race need to take the points that Trisha makes and apply it to our lives. Of course this responsibility can only start with us as an individual to commit to in our daily lives.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Aloha Trisha, and mahalo for this.
I don’t think we have to fear stepping into the future in an unprepared manner when we can share lessons-learned in this way as you are: What a treasure of a posting this is, where you ‘give’ us the mana‘o of Aunty Nona Beamer, Aunty Pua Burgess, Aunty Malia Craver —and your own mana‘o, your brave calling for us to be better.
Our kūpuna have shared much with us, and as Aunty Nona says in this video, “we have to listen… to be in tune, because life has so much beauty underneath it if we just acquired enough to listen to it.” She explains that what we “must acquire” is mahalo as the value of gratitude and appreciation it is, with thankfulness for each other most of all. I think that sense of palena ‘ole, of ‘abundance without limits’ is what we are missing; more so than knowledge. We can do this; more knowledge is for naught if it is not used, and applied.
I echo what you have written, that we cannot believe that we are not “good enough or smart enough. This is unacceptable. We must learn to have great pride in who we are and have faith in our own capabilities.” I think this is the core lesson Aloha tries to teach us: A reflection on where our Aloha ‘spirit’ comes from – from self-love, self-respect, and then from the appreciation of the others in our lives who add their Aloha with ours to make us whole.
I also echo what DannoBoy shares in his comment via that wonderful quote from the late Reverend Abraham Akaka, who “spoke publicly about the greater impact Hawaii's people, culture and faith would now have on the rest of the world.” Let’s focus on our Aloha, on Mahalo, and on Alaka‘i, our ability and our capacity for leadership. Just as we cannot focus on what we fear, we cannot focus on what some might think we lost in Statehood or any other chapter of our history. We are well suited to lead. Now we must be poised to lead.
Mahalo nui loa Trisha. I will share your posting with my ‘Ohana and my network.
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October 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Aloha e Trisha. Your thoughts and sentiments are true and brings forth the reality of the current stage for native Hawaiians. The kupuna you mention that we are losing, are the bridge to the past, and the valuable mana`o that they hold. The surge of interest and preservation of Hawaiian culture etc. has been great, but in the recent excitement, the kupuna and their treasures have sort of been left behind. Once this bridge is gone, so will the abundance of knowledge that they have. All that connects to the past will go with them too. They were the true keepers of what it is to be Hawaiian, and Hawai`i. As your blog states "He Hawai`i Au". Hawaiians must look within themselves, which includes the valuable resources of the kupuna. Should anything die or be lost, it will be the fault of the current generation Hawaiians.
I can relate to your words because my LooChoo/Okinawan identity faces the same plight. I look to the situation of the Hawaiians as an example as our two cultures have very much similar/parallel histories and culture. However, we are faced with the extinction of our language in the net 20-30 years if aggrassive action isn't taken soon. In Okinawa, and here locally, the focus is on the commercial aspect of "selling" the culture, instead of actively preserving the traditions and looking to the elders (nana I ke kumu). This is hurting us greatly and the elders are our only bridge to the past, that connects us to the true Okinawan values and traditions.
Mr. Conklin has no right to say look at your writing again and consider "all Hawaiians". Anyone not of the blood is just that and needs to accept it as that. They can never be "Hawaiian". He never went through the predjudice and suffereing of the Hawaiian people. His race is not faced with trying to preserve language, culture and traditions which were prohibited by the US colonizers. my ancestors who came to the islands to work in the cane fields over 100 years ago knew this also, and passed this down to us. We must respect the Hawaiians and their cutlure. i support you in your thoughts and efforts as we as Okinawans understand what you are going through , but also lok to the Hawaiians as examples to help us rescue our own identity and culture. Mahalo Nui Loa, E Ola Mau Na Pua o Hawai`i Nei!
October 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Danno boy, you made some good points. Most importantly, I love the tone of your posting and that you acknowledge the positive attributes of everyone who faithfully follows this blog (regardless of view). It's that kind of appreciation, professionalism and love that's missing in this world.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Been thinking about this since it was posted...
Ot the outset please let me say that I believe native hawaiians do not need any special handouts or whtever... they are every bit as able as every Amereica and can do whatever they want. In fact as the last census pointed out and in the recent BHI study... kanaka's are doing just as well as ANY other race.
Soooooooo here's my real question... I just had a blood transfusion from a kanaka does that mean I can join the club now?
Seriously I was a blood brother with Kimo up the block.
Yes Mr. Wada...
Dr. Ken has every right and Dr. Trisha does have a propensity towards leaving the rest of us out of the raindeer games. Not sure how it works in Japan but here we encourage freedom of speech and exchanging points of view. Does our history have bad things in it... sure... but no more than yours or ancient Hawaii's. When will we stop the cycle? When will the sins of the father no longer be the sins of the son?
Also..... I forget the name of the organization (Hawaiian Preservation Soc.?) but there IS an organization that is going around and recording kapuna's talking story about the past and putting it onto video tape to save it for the future. (And BTW it was also started by a haole/white person) Cool eh?
Ms. Tita 'shared'....
"Even when she witnessed the degrading and abusive treatment of our people-she would forgive."
Oh yes giving the Hawaiian people freedom and liberty and a democratic form of government is sooooooo degrading and abusive. And until you forgive the hate will continue to eat away at one's soul.
"That lesson is beyond my reach when I encounter the uglies that continue their attempts to keep our people subjected to their alleged distorted version of our history."
DITTO! Forgiveness is hard.
But for me and many others it is really more like:
'That lesson is beyond my reach when I encounter the uglies in the hawaiian independence kabal that continue their attempts to keep the native Hawaiians victims and all the people of Hawaii nei held hostage to their distorted version of history and the myth of the overthrow.'
She went on (Tita is really Lana btw): "Instead of us all taking a look at the facts and find a way to resolve the problem-the facts get twisted"
That's right... but to find the true twisters of history sorry but you need only look in the mirror. There are sooooo many facts that are always glossed over by those with your POV. Some examples?
* Native Hawaiians are not indigenous to these islands.
* It was a mutlicultural Kingdom,outsiders were always invited and welcome.
* It was not an overthrow it was a _revolution_ .
* In 1893 the USMC never pointed a weapon at anyone and in fact dipped US colors as they passed the palace as the
utmost sign of respect between nations.
* The Queen broke her word to uphold the constitution and instead tried to stage a counter revolution to get her crown
powers back.
* The Queen flew the stars and stripes from her porch at Washington Place towards the end of her life and after losing in
federal court refused to take her case to the supreme court (it is my understanding that she also said before she died that
of all the nations Hawaii becoming part of America was for the best too).
* The US government assumed over $4 mil. in kingdom debt.
* For more than 60 years Hawaiian royalty went to DC and literally begged the USA for admission to the union.
* The Republic of Hawaii was internationally recognized as a country by every major gov. at that time.
* The crown lands were and are the public lands and belong to every Hawaii citizen.
* The legal 1959 statehood vote, you know the one where over 90% voted for statehood, was also internationally
recognized including by the UN.
Yes this radical 'movement' started at UH during the 60's and 70's mostly by people not from Hawaii. Your queen abdicated her crown and ended the kingdom forever and even if you don't like that it is still true or how about "until such time as..." in which case what part of 'no' and 'never' is so hard to understand? Ya know there's a reason why the Queen's statute is facing away from the palace and towards the Legislature... she is turning her back on the past and the crown and towards the future. A future of freedom and democracy! Ya know I was over at the palace the other day and shared with a group of Asian and euro visitors the true history and they were both surprised and appreciative to learn the real truth!
Also why is it that none of the Olelo programs and such ever have the conviction to have those who disagree with them on? Are your beliefs so devoid of logic that they can't stand the scrutiny? I DARE you to have someone on with an oppositing POV!
The one thing you can say about Dr. Trisha is that at least she isn't afraid to tackle the tough issues and to allow those who disagree with her to participate... in my humble opinion a very American _and_ Hawaiian thing to do!
"Hawaiians always end up with the short end of the stick."
Well first that's simply untrue. But if it is so it's because of their very own life choices and lack of participation in the community. Democracy works if you work it! No vote no grumble. Or as it is in the bible "no work... no eat".
"Justice avoided at all costs."
No sorry you are wrong (again).... it is instead...
"One nation under God, >>>indivisible<<>>This heva must cease.<<< But still I just thank god I live in a free country that allows people freedom of speech. I will fight these lies till the day I die but will also give my life to defend your right to say them and even burn the flag I love, fought for and had friends and family die for MY people, OUR people which includes; native hawaiians, Native American Indians, Irish, Mexican, English people, Asians, Africans... all the colors of the rainbow! MAHALO for letting me share.
So in the words of Queen Liliuokalani we Americans will "Onipa`a" (Stand firm).
Aloha and God Bless Hawaii USA - Then, Now... Forever!
October 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Mahalo Makau like for your insight and revalation of your true self in your looong essay on defending US history in the islands and your version of Hawaiian history. There seems to be alot of resentment in your words and you have revealed your sentiments well.
If you look and read into what I was saying, I was basically saying that in this world we need to look into our elders for resources that will enable us to continue our identities and culture. If you were a true American you would understand this as the "almighty" USA has lost its true identity of the varied cultures which have made our country what is is from the very start. Yes, it was the British , but then also came the other Europeans and immigrants. We must also not lose sight of the first Americans that have been pushed to preserving their lives on reservations. Look a the current situation of our country. Something to be proud of?
The basic message I was getting across was to look to our kupuna. It was a message basically to Trisha and her Hawaiian community, not for you to judge or be maha`oe about. Its this intrusion on Hawaiian things by outsiders that makes many things "hewa" ( by the way your spelling for that Hawaiian word was wrong....since you're getting so picky about whats right). The Hawaiian homelands cases as well as the Kamehameha Schools cases are a good example. What have the Hawaiians did as an offensive to cause this. They have done NOTHING. They have welcomed and dealt with the changes while at the same time trying to protect what little they have left as a people. In your last paragraph you embrace all peoples as the people of the USA. With that should come respect for them also as we look into the fallout of the wrongs which had been placed on many by the USA. We should never forget and it should always be taught. History has a way of repeating itself and it is in looking at the suffering and wrong of history that we learn.
Again, my message was to always look to our elders and ancestors for our identity and cultural resources. You took it to another level and ranted about things which must cause you much anger and which does not make things pono for you. There will be debates on those subjects always. Mahalo for your commentary and revealations. By taking the queen's "Onipa`a" olelo and making it your own shows the ongoing idea of taking what was not yours to begin with and making your own. That is HEWA!
October 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
No sir... that is AMERICA. "Out of many... one."
And yes I am proud of our country today as well as its history... good and bad.
I was not talking directly to you or about your post but was speaking to the whole notion of Hawaiians and the future.
The cases you stated were brought and were and will be won for good reason. And I would be happy to go over the points of those cases with you. Suffice to say... we are a nation of laws or we are nothing.
No resentment or anger here towards anyone _except_ those who in my opinion want to destroy Hawaii and the USA.
I could go thru your post and provide you an alternative point of view but I know you really wanting that. I agree with some of what you've said but not all. BTW Hawaiians adopted many things that were not of their culture... didn't they? Also you know who has been the biggest savior and promoter of Hawaiian culture? White and asian people.
I'm not picky but sorry about the spelling as I know some are anal about that sort of thing.
What is Hewa is some folks making themselves out to be victims so they can have an excuse not to excel and make something of their lives.
Mahalo nui loa for sharing and for reading!
Peace and Aloha
October 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Also my auntie says she has seen you perform at the Mamiya Theatre?
You are a dancer yes?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Yes. I agree with your points of some Hawaiians taking advantage of the "handicaps" they face and not doing anything to recoup. That is sad. On the other hand though, there are the real cases where Hawaiians are also still trying to come out of a "battered" syndrome, which may have been a while ago, but also as I can remember growing up, many non-Hawaiians labeled Hawaiians as lazy etc. This is also the case in the media, such as some films. I'm not trying to give Hawaiians an easy way out, but to have people realize that there are real problems we need to look at and remember also so that they do not happen again. It is the same for my Okinawan background, as we face the same fallout from colonization from Japan and the US. These points we both bring up also bring up discussion which is good. Sometimes things will not get resolved but at least they make us think. Its when we stop thinking that it becomes dangerous. May I also ask your name, or is that going to be a secret? Haha
October 10th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Sorry but compared to many mainlanders and folks in places like
sillycon valley they are. And that's OK. If one would rather go fishin
or surfing or hang with ohana than work 14 hr days... I'd personally
say their priorities were better than worse! At the same time yes generalizations are that for a reason---there is a kernel of truth in them. I use my given hawaiian name and given my pov
and the vindictive nature of some folks I'll let it stand at that for now. Besides in my opinion that just gets in the way.... it is the ideas and not from whomever they flo is what should be the goal no? It is just that I notice you used your full name and I guess recall that from the festival? I'm sorry but I do not know enough about Japan's history to comment.
When we talk of native hawaiians "taking control of their future" my hope and goal would be, as we have now, have more native hawaiians in positions of power. We have more kanaka's in the state house than ever before for example. Our system of government provides every opportunity for all of us to shape our communities if we but put forth the effort.
Its easy to blame the white man or uncle sam or the man or whatever its harder to take responsibility for one's life and choices.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Sorry but compared to many mainlanders and folks in places like
sillycon valley they are. And that's OK. If one would rather go fishin
or surfing or hang with ohana than work 14 hr days... I'd personally
say their priorities were better than worse! At the same time yes generalizations are that for a reason---there is a kernel of truth in them. I use my given hawaiian name and given my pov
and the vindictive nature of some folks I'll let it stand at that for now. Besides in my opinion that just gets in the way.... it is the ideas and not from whomever they flo is what should be the goal no? It is just that I notice you used your full name and I guess recall that from the festival? I'm sorry but I do not know enough about Japan's history to comment.
When we talk of native hawaiians "taking control of their future" my hope and goal would be, as we have now, have more native hawaiians in positions of power. We have more kanaka's in the state house than ever before for example. Our system of government provides every opportunity for all of us to shape our communities if we but put forth the effort.
Its easy to blame the white man or uncle sam or the man or whatever its harder to take responsibility for one's life and choices.
"No'u ka hewa." My mistake or my bad... yes?
October 10th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
sorry for the double post
October 13th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Okay-when will the SINS of the father no longer be the SINS of the son? Answer-when the SINS of the fathers are corrected by the son!
In a true jackass fashion you have committed yourself to poisonous untruths of OUR history. You also claim that Hawaiians are owed nada from the US. Wrong again, even your Congress admitted to the illegal overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom with the aid of the US marines. Not even you can change history-however, you insist that you got it right.
You democracy theory is a farce. Statehood vote-you claim that 90% of Hawaiians voted to be americans?!! This claim puts you right back at the top-leading ALL the idiots (except your idol, he definately leads). At least attempt to get the facts right. The statehood vote-only 36% of the population at that time voted for statehood. Hardly the majority, and of the 36% that voted-90% of those voters were americans! I read in one of your other posts that we should ask the Hawaiians AGAIN if we want to be americans. You are confident that we would vote to remain americans-I really wished you would advocate for that becuz I surely would like to be given the option. You and I both know that will never happen-the US has avoided that like the plague cuz you see, they know the answer to that too! And oh yea, you would not have any say in the vote becuz it was not your NATION that was violated-why should we repeat the fraud by asking americans if they would like Hawaii to become/remain in the union? That would be like asking Iraq if they wanted to join the US union but only allowing americans in Iraq to vote on it. Give it a rest old man-cuz as soon as an honorable person is willing to address this issue the Hawaiian Kingdom government and her people and her land will be-out of many...one. Our claims were made when the violations began and has contiuned (without pause) thru the decades.
Also, I understand why you do not want to disclose your real identity-when the time comes, you will be denied access to our NATION.
No hate, just a powerful fact that you will not be afforded to twist with your poison. Aloha
October 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Tita oh Tita..... THAT day will never come.
How convenient a memory you have.... you must have forgotten
that Hawaiian royalty asked for admission to the USA for over 60 years... include Prince Kuhio who almost lived in DC.
"The statehood vote-only 36% of the population at that time voted for statehood. Hardly the majority, and of the 36% that voted-90% of those voters were americans!"
Wrong oh hateful one!
I'd like to see your source for those numbers because by every other media account, _including a copy of the Advertiser I have from 1959_ say 94% of voters who cast a ballot said yes we want to be a state. Perhaps you are ignorant as to the way a democracy works? Oh wait I know, you think that only native hawaiians should be able to vote? Sorry it don't work that way... ask Fiji. No Tita, look around the world and in country after country people have voted and fought for freedom and liberty and turned their backs on governments that pit one against another by virtue of blood. That's why the Queen's statute faces towards the state legislature and away from the palace.
It's a real shame that you see reality and true history as a "poison" but ya
know what? Welcome to Hawaii USA... where everyone is entitled
to an opinion!
Sorry but your POV does not have a legal leg to stand on
and PL103 does NOT have the force of law per SCOTUS.
By the way you, as a subject of the crown back in kingdom days, HAD no say and fewer rights. Please read the Queen's abdication and there's a reason she did not take it to the supreme court after losing in Federal Court... she knew she would lose. Read both the Blout and the Morgan reports. Read Dr. Conklin's book. Then, once you have put aside your illogical passions, you will have studied both sides of the issue and be able to calmly and intellectually discuss it.
There will never be another kingdom except in the hearts of some which is as it should be. Once you accept that -fact- then there are so many positive productive things that can be done to affect some of the changes the native hawaiian community would like.
And a claim does not a liability make. Please go back a re-read what I said;
I've always said one of the most important things is that the native hawaiian community "hold Uncle Sam's feet to the fire" with regards to each and every agreement and comitment.
No hate here either just a steadfast determination to state the truth about the myth of the overthrow and see to it that those who seek to destroy our state are well documented and known.
We are a nation of laws... here's one you and others may want to aquaint yourselves with!
"SEDITION--- Conduct which is directed against a government and which tends toward insurrection but does not amount to treason. Treasonous conduct consists of levying war against the United States or of adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. The raising of commotions or disturbances in the state; a revolt against authority." It's a felony I believe.
There's also "The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007" which folks like Shelly, Jean, Kealaula and Kaleo who defaced the stars and strips on Statehood Day may find out about in due course. I'm sure HPD, the FBI and DOJ really want to thank all the independence groups for posting the videos because it really helps with IDing those breaking the law!
Aloha,
Makaulike
Hawaii nei USA - Then, Now, Always!
October 14th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Okay old man-you need to adjust your medications, real soon too. It is you and your lies that is disillusional. A few posts back, you listed all the trumped up activities that lead up to the overthrow. Oh yea, overthrow old man, no revolution other than the 13 men who consipred with the US marines to "crown" themselves as being the new sheriffs in town.
In you listing I failed to locate the ku'e petition. Was it in small print? Or does that not exist either? Perhaps you and your idol haven't found a way to discredit that document yet?!! Those signatures belonged to ACTUAL people who were ACTUALLY there. They said no to the underminded actions of a few. Where was your precious democracy then? Did you guys not invent it at that time? Our beloved Queen-her only vise was believing that the US would do the honorable thing once the truth was brought to light. I guess she under estimated the corruption of the almighty US. She would eventually have to believe it cuz the corruption has endured for over a century.
It is mighty big of you to think you have the authority to prevent the Hawaiian Kingdom government's return. "I will not let that happen" is what you claim-please mr. idiot-you do not have that power nor to you have the power to stop us from claiming what is ours.
Go to the US supreme court? Why in the world would we do that? Knowing full well that the american intrests will be upheld regardless of what is right. That system is bogus. But, isn't that what your culture is all about? Steal what you can for as long as you can, you can always deny it if caught-or maybe continue to ignore it. Perhaps turn a perpetual deaf ear on the situation? You are pathetic people.
You read your idol's book-believe it if you must, then you can watch for the signs/clues for when it is time to kiss his feet. Yep, pathetic.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:08 am
Oh yea, you lolo, I am not Lana and she is not me. Hello, I live on Oahu and dear Lana lives in Florida.
How do I know you are not one of Conklins "other" personalities? Maybe a twin?
Hea Lana-hows this clown? Aloha
October 14th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Yes Tita your hate for America and white people is pathetic.
Tita spewed:
"Oh yea, overthrow old man, no revolution other than the 13 men who consipred with the US marines to "crown" themselves as being the new sheriffs in town."
I won't argue history with you any longer as you are an indoctrinated soul that is beyond reasoning. That's a lie pure and simple. The revolution was much more wide spread. Is it the fact that liberty and freedom won that bothers you so much or that we/America won and you won't get to be subject of a crown?
"In you listing I failed to locate the ku'e petition. Was it in small print? Or does that not exist either? Perhaps you and your idol haven't found a way to discredit that document yet?!! Those signatures belonged to ACTUAL people who were ACTUALLY there. They said no to the underminded actions of a few. "
Well first it was not just a few and second... you always bring this up... first many of the signatures were duplicates and many outright frauds with people who had been dead 10 years, etc. And then there's the numbers some say 14,000 some 26,000 whatever the case _it did not and does not constitute a majority_.
Where was your precious democracy then? Did you guys not invent it at that time? Our beloved Queen-her only vise was believing that the US would do the honorable thing once the truth was brought to light. I guess she under estimated the corruption of the almighty US. She would eventually have to believe it cuz the corruption has endured for over a century.
Only in your indoctrinated little mind could one believe that the crown and the Queen herself had not become corrupt from the sandelwood fiasco to the opinum lotto... to breaking her oath to uphold a legal constitution. She was a wonderful _person_ but her administration of the crown led to the revolution. I know you'd like the Alli and kapu system back but that is NEVER gonna happen.
"It is mighty big of you to think you have the authority to prevent the Hawaiian Kingdom government's return. "I will not let that happen" is what you claim-please mr. idiot-you do not have that power nor to you have the power to stop us from claiming what is ours."
First it was never 'yours/ours'. It belong to the crown. And I know you'd like to nay need to keep it all real simple but that no work. Just saying that I and thousands of other Hawaiian citizens and Americans across the country will fight to keep Hawaii our 50th state. Perhaps you didn't hear but we had a little thing over this called the civil war?
"Go to the US supreme court? Why in the world would we do that?"
There was and is no 'we'. For the same reason the Queen went to federal court. Admit it... the poltically correct crowd never told you about this eh? Nor about her volentarily flying the stars and stripes at Washington Place, nor about the fact that the Marines never pointed a weapon, nor the fact that the Republic was a world recognized government, nor the Morgan Report, etc etc. You reeeeeeeeallly need to research both sides of an issue or is it, like with many today, all just emotional and reactional with you?
"Knowing full well that the american intrests will be upheld regardless of what is right. That system is bogus."
Sad that you are so jaded and bitter to believe that. If President Obama's election proves anything its that our system works... it is not perfect but if one participates it is the best system of government yet invented.... or would you rather go back to royalty and serfs?
Face it... we, as in all who love Hawaii nei USA, won and you, through your crown and Queendom, lost. I'm sorry its so bitter for you but that is the reality. We won and you lost and you can't deal with it. So instead of dealing with the many many real problems we have today and working with your white brothers and sisters to make Hawaii a better place for ALL... you would rather wallow in the past with this rose colored view where we can all sing and dance hula outside our little grass shacks and bow as the King goes by. Fat chance.
"But, isn't that what your culture is all about? Steal what you can for as long as you can, you can always deny it if caught-or maybe continue to ignore it. Perhaps turn a perpetual deaf ear on the situation?"
Not at all and any sane rational person knows that. Tell you what... if you and the others in the PC kabal would get off your behinds and do a Con-Con so we could have what other states have with Recall, Referendum and Initiative, THEN maybe, IF there is a majority and a consensus, you can affect the changes you seek... not until.
"You are pathetic people."
DITTO!
"You read your idol's book-believe it if you must, then you can watch for the signs/clues for when it is time to kiss his feet. Yep, pathetic."
What is pathetic is that we actually let a person like you, who obviously hates America and is a racist, live in this country. THAT is pathetic.
You and Lana are cut from the same sad cloth and say the same things, like many in your 'movement' who regurgitate the same illogical crap over and over, just saw many similarities in your posts and she had 2-3 personas when she got the independence blog shut down. I stand corrected.
You will never win.
Glad I could help!
Aloha
October 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Tita,
You Go Girl, owning Uncle Tom, lol Love it, Love it, Keep it up!!!!!!!!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Kao... in your dreams.
So nice of you to offer all you could.
Reader... notice how they never address the issues?
Its cause they can't!
October 15th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Tom-is that who you are? You can continue to spew your poison all you want. You are wrong and as long as you believe in the lies you will forever be left in the dark.
"We won and you lost"-please, you won nothing! However, if you claimed we stole it fair and square you would still be considered stupid. That would mean that stealing is a good thing!!??
In the end, we will see. Old man, stick around for the fireworks! Actually, I am aware that the explosion could generate from you blowing your mind!! Just another idiot biting the dust.
You and all the millions of others like you (you claim the masses but are they really there?) live in riff raff mentality. Steal from all, lie to many and attempt to fool most of them. This is your culture-thats why you hate Hawaiians. After all that you have said and done, why would we even consider including you within our ranks? Don't worry old man, we wont. You are not worthy.
Gads, I can imagine the heartbreak that you would have when you are forced to seeee the truth. Not your bogus truth, but the real truth. You see, history is written and you nor I can change it. You think that I dont know my history? It is you that needs to get you head out of Conklin's books and get some fresh air.!! No matter to me if you insist on being an jester of the court.
Alii..Royalty.. we will have it if WE chose to. Not for you to decide for us. You got that? It was NOT your nation that was underminded and swallowed up by the vultures-so do not contemplate on being included on the way to settle the issue. And until we have our nation returned-you stick to your tribe of liars and theives-it is safer there you know.
This is Hawaiian Kingdom an independant state-not a colony, not a territory, and certainly not the 50th state of corporate america! No consent given to your government giving permission to dictate over us. Period.
Hold on to your hateful thoughts about Hawaiians and your allegations of us being racists-cuz you see old man, you are of no consequence to us.
To the readers-this old man would rather spew lies and half truths in lieu of facing the facts and lets find a rightous solution. Also unwilling to shut-the-hell up and let the Hawaiian people have justice. We want only what belongs to us, nothing more and certainly nothing less. He just cant face it-poor old soul.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:13 am
And then you woke up! ROFLOL Dream on.
I won't bother answering your questions as I know you are not really interested in answers or discussion. For Tita it's:
'My minds made up... don't confuse me with the facts!'
I stand by each and every word I've written and I'm willing to engage in intelligent conversation IF you can. You and your kind are wrong
and will eventually be placed on the trash heap of history.
Your hate is so obvious it's sad for you and I pity you and will pray for you. You could stand to go back and re-read what Dr. Watson has written.
Good luck to you--- you're gonna need it!
`A`ohe ka he lohe o ko pepeiao huluhulu? Ele`elep. He piha `ekelo!
Aloha
Makaulike
October 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
BTW re: "We want only what belongs to us, nothing more and certainly nothing less."
It -never- belonged to you so you have no stranding... sorry.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Add a #5, Get Over Victimization. As long as someone thinks they are a victim, their ability to change their life rests in another's control.
Aloha,
Keahi
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Keahi...
110% right.